Agency Journey

Agency Growth Consultant Karl Sakas

· with Karl Sakas , Agency Growth Consultant at Sakas and Company

Key Takeaways

  • Selecting 1-3 target verticals creates stronger positioning - Kuno Creative focuses on SaaS, healthcare, and specialty manufacturing
  • Free consultations after speaking engagements generate strong response rates with two-thirds attendance
  • The 'but test' reveals your true business priorities - listen to what comes after 'but' in any business statement

Karl Sakas, agency growth consultant and founder of Sakas and Company (formerly Agency Firebox), joins the show in his first appearance on the Inbound Agency Journey podcast to share strategies for agency growth.

Doubling Profit Margins

Karl shares a case study of a west coast agency owner who doubled her client load through a combination of strategic interventions - hiring plans, pricing adjustments, and service modifications. The principle is straightforward: most agencies are leaving significant profit on the table through poor positioning and underpricing.

Smart Hiring at Different Stages

For smaller agencies with 5-12 people, Karl recommends multi-talented hires who can work across multiple disciplines. As agencies scale, roles should become more specialized. Cultural fit matters alongside skills at every stage.

The Power of Specialization

Karl makes a strong case for selecting 1-3 target verticals rather than serving everyone. He points to Kuno Creative as an example - their focus on SaaS, healthcare, and specialty manufacturing enables deep expertise, targeted content, and speaking opportunities within those industries. Specialization creates stronger positioning in every sales conversation.

Speaking as Lead Generation

Value-driven presentations convert audiences without direct selling. Karl notes that offering free consultations after speaking engagements produces strong response rates, with two-thirds of people who book actually attending. His book “The In-Demand Marketing Agency” details how to use public speaking to become an agency of choice.

Karl also introduces the “but test” - when someone says they want one thing but then follows with a contradicting statement, the truth is in what comes after the “but.” This applies to business model choices between lifestyle businesses and growth-to-sell trajectories.

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